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tv   With All Due Respect  Bloomberg  February 13, 2015 5:00pm-5:31pm EST

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john: i'm john heilemann. mark: and i'm mark halperin, and we'll think that's obama is following what teddy roosevelt was talking about with a bigger stick. john: and the governor of oregon resigned from his position because his fiancee was corrupt,
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but that is 3000 miles away from washington, so today in south florida, we also find jeb bush canceling a press conference but he did talk to reporters and he told our away from colleague that his wife is his inspiration and she is his soulmate. she helps him keep sane, and during a campaign he can't do anything without her. all beasley someone very important to jeb bush, but many americans have never heard her voice. she did not talk today. let's hurt her -- let us hear her say something she said a little while ago. mrs. bush: [speaking spanish] john: some of the other candidates are a lot more active. here is kelly hall -- kelly paul. kelly paul: real change and
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taking on the establishment is hard, and that is why so few people in government actually do anything. rand always fights for the principle that he believes in. john: so kelley has a book that is coming out and she is pretty active politically. so which one, based on what you know kelley about, have the potential to either be helpful or harmful to the candidates? mark: i, like most americans don't know very many of these spouses, just at the first cut. colombo bush is a compelling candidate, she was born in mexico, she could be as big an asset as any spouse in either party, but we just don't know. john: when one candidate ran
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into some turbulence, he did not have his spouse's to stand by and validate. when and how we start to see and hear from mrs. bush, but mrs. christie has something of a profile, and mrs. cruz is a something of a bright person, but we have not heard mrs. walker, i could not pick her up out of a lineup, and i don't think we could know who would help or hurt, but i think all of them are not afraid, but very cautious. mark: kelley paul is the first that we heard of, but she is one that is not always an asset when there is strategy meetings. i am not saying that she will ruin things, but we should watch it. john: we shouldn't say there is another exception and that is karen santorum and she is a big asset. mark: another person who could
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be a huge asset and a huge liability is bill clinton. maybe the biggest asset in the world, but he could also really be a problem. john: i think it is safe to say that there is not one of those smart republican espouses who would not be as good of a candidate at strategist roles as hillary clinton. mark: and scott walker will be making the rounds in gotham next week and there is no doubt that jeb bush has the inside track when it comes to fundraising here in new york, so my question to you is, how much risk does walker pose to christie in terms of money? john: a big risk, bad luck for chris christie. he had his vaccine controversy on the london trip, and a general feeling that he has taken off with a bad start, just at the moment where scott walker had a great showing in our iowa
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poll and our new hampshire poll. the bush people say the same thing, walker is getting a look from people now, and even if they don't know him, they know him as a successful midwestern governor. mark: and here is another thing about chris christie, he is great at raising money and he knows where the donors are, but people don't understand the hate to play problem, he can't raise a lot of money on wall street and this is part of the reason you will recall, regarding mitt romney, and i actually think that is an underappreciated problem for christie in terms of his fund-raising. john: i do think, look, there is a acre donor class than her has been in a while and christy is going to get his chair, walker is going to get his share, and bush is going to blow everyone away. walker is going to be in new york city next week to try to become the established -- to beat the establishment of money,
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so we'll see how that goes. mark: and those who were involved in this walker stuff, they believe this generational thing, just like mitt romney they are ready for a new fresh face, and they like that he is gone good and not part of the old thing, that is not going to stop jeb bush from raising a lot of money, but there is a class of money that is going to back walker. john: but we cannot emphasize enough that this chris christie subplot is interesting, and we cannot emphasize enough at how good jeb bush is at raising money, and having enough money and being at second place is the difference between walker and christie is multiple millions, so the difference between walker and christie and bush is a lot -- mark: as you know, there is only so much money you can spend in iowa. there is enough -- you can run every campaign that we know, if you have enough money to take
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iowa, you don't need to hundred million dollars. john: but to be able to go on the air in the summer -- mark: all i am saying is that scott walker needs to win iowa. if he can raise a certain not, then he can win iowa. john: and dave makes his debut on the show. mark: go ahead, put it on. james carville: what's going on? [laughter] john: wunderbar. and today president obama used a selfie stick and had people outraged. host: so on the very day that kevin -- k mueller is confirmed
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to be dead at the hands of terrorism, how did the president respond? the president says "yolo man," and for those people who don't know what "yolo" mean, it mean "you only live once." host: the president can multitask, but is this the kind of message that he can send at this important time? john: good idea or bad idea? mark: it is a fantastic video for him to make at this time. he reached out to millenial's, and that went everywhere, and it got seen by the exact same people that they wanted to see it, and it doesn't matter. john: the outrage for people who could go back in history and look at republican candidates they did not make goofy videos, but they did plenty of recreational things and casual things and attending benefits.
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mark: it seems like there is an outrage machine that someone keeps cranking up, there are just not really making a point, they are just talking. between the brian williams and john stewart stories, it has been a fascinating week in recent history in the news story. but the most important chronicle her -- chronicler did not get to see it and. david carr died in the "new york times" newsroom. anyone who knew david, as we both did, new him in their own way, and those who did not know him, got a sense in page one at "the new york times," especially when he confronts shane smith of "vice." david carr: i arrived in new york late in life and the chip
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that was planted in my mind, let's just call it "the new york times" inception really helped me. the drug addiction that i suffered in my 20's and 30's, leading in jail for cocaine possession, raising two children as a sigel para and eventually ending up at the new york times, i know what it is like to come out on the other side when the odds are stacked against you. we have had reporters there reporting on genocide, and just because you put on a [bleep] safari helmet does not give you a right to insult what we do. shane smith: i am just saying i'm not there to report, i'm just there to [indiscernible] david carr: for those who work in media, it is not sheet cakes and champagne, we feel like we
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are on the island of misfit toys. john: mark, david carr just pass, obviously it was a shocking thing he did have cancer, and this just came out of nowhere and people in the industry are kind of reeling from the loss. mark: this is a reporter, and not a public leader or a celebrity, but he really did touch on a lot of people in our business and out. one of the things is that david was bigger than life, and he talked to these larger-than-life people, and they are usually take people, but david was not a take person, and he was so charismatic in what he wrote about. our business is seen as insider but really, he wrote about our business in a bigger way. john: he had three things that were marked to me, he had no b
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ull, everything he wrote and it sounded like him and that is why he became such a brand and he was so grateful for what he was, and to land at the new york times were he always wanted to become a he also became the face of the paper, he was just so happy to do what he was doing, and he had a joy mixed with skepticism and everything else it made him larger-than-life and bigger than the page. mark: we will miss him. coming up anthony weiner is talking and why he is sticking it to some people these days.
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john: our guest tonight is anthony weiner and we're discredited talk about your borough and my borough, and talk about that. anthony: i wept myself to sleep last night about it. we arrested gaggles of people, but i understand why de blasio did it, he has this notion that he wants to be a spokesman for the person, a party guy, and it is not the end of the world. a beat new york is not the best place in the world, we don't need it, and we are not that kind of city, so i am not that broken up about it. mark: right now, who do you see as a possible likely republican nominee? anthony: there are really two brackets, there is the institutional bracket, and then you have the wackadoo wing, the rand paul types.
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look, mitt romney took eight months to vanquish those guys, it took them forever. mark: who could be nominated right now? who would you put on the list? anthony: i can't get into the skin of the caucus voters, and i don't see any reason white rand paul can't be nominated are -- nominated, and if you're going to try to get millenial's off of the sidelines and get them around libertarian views on pot might not be the bad way to go. mark: and technology. anthony: that's not about idea. john: among the ones that we know, which of them to you think would be the toughest opponents to the presumptive democratic nominee, hillary rodham clinton?
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anthony: i mentioned rand paul because i think there is some genius and potential to this idea that appeals to this whole group of people that are on the sidelines. for too long we have had this basic voting block of 40% democrat and 40% republican, but if someone is going to grow that millenial group, maybe rand paul is finding a way to do it. either way, it would be tough to figure that out when you have a lot of candidates who are now going to be adapting to the new roadmap of gay marriage cuba, marijuana, things that for no -- things that for years they have been saying no to and now they have to say yes to. mark: what about the one that most clinton people are worried about? jeb bush? anthony: i am not sure how it is going to work because i think it
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depends on how jeb bush will position himself visit the -- vis-a-vis his brother. mark: lying about it? anthony: lying about the information to get us into the war in iraq so i do have a lot of respect for the bush families, and i think they are sincere, but i don't think that honestly any republican that you could say recently could be off the board for the democrats, so -- john: let's talk about hillary, you are a member of the family by marriage in some ways. anthony: i am a member of the family in terms of being that guy in the corner of the room. [laughter] john: what you think she is my to do to get into the race and what are the pros and cons of earlier verses later? anthony: i understand we have to
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talk about stuff, and i know that we're in to talk about it right now, but honestly, what difference does it make? there are all kinds of things you have to report and things like that, and jumping in early music you have to step on when there is this fracture going in the republican party, but if you we too long you pose a problem for people who might want to run, but this kind of stuff, this is really -- john: as long as it is not taking up a million cycles with hillary. anthony: i don't diminish it, and you guys are setting the tone for this conversation, but i don't know if it makes that much difference. mark: last 48 hours, you got into a little bit of it, and a back-and-forth with the governor, which should have been started -- which should be noted had been started by the governor, what is driving the back-and-forth on twitter between eu and the governor? anthony: i am in the media now,
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and -- john: you have always been in the media. [laughter] anthony: let's face it, governor cuomo has had some tough times he basically ran a non-primary primary were he ducked someone he should not have duct and i wrote about that, he has been for some reason getting roughed up in the media as he should for pummeling the mayor of our city, and he closes our subways when it is needed but to be honest with you, the most interesting thing about the twitter back-and-forth is that he clearly has a professional spokesman, which is mind-boggling to me that he is actually getting help with this stuff, but all that being said, i am somewhat critical of him but there are some things that he has done that i like a lot, and we finally have a train going to laguardia, for example. mark: 20 think they came back at you?
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-- why do you think they came back at you? anthony: they might want to try to change the conversation because they are probably trying to duck subpoenas right now. mark: you invoked in one of your tweets the notion that there is a sense of they interfered with investigations, do you think the governor right now is at some peril with the u.s. attorney? anthony: it is very interesting in my weekly appearance on "new york 1" height say that i think that they have gone way overboard, it was a joke, that is what we do, we joke and one time there was this talk that if it is too hot, stay out of hell's kitchen so it was a joke. john: felix, felix, felix!
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we could keep this a feud all day, anthony weiner, you are awesome, thank you for coming in. after the break, we have our week in review. we will be right back. ♪
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john: so mark, what is going on? mark: hey jon, i was just thinking about what a great week it has been here at bloomberg politics. there was that time that kanye try to steal our show. john: that time we took hillary to brooklyn. hillary: throw a beanie on, there you go. mark: that time we asked chief justice roy moore who he hangs
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out with. john: that time we wrote a letter to lincoln. mark: that time we found that new job for john stuart. -- jon stewart. john: that time we found millenial votes for obama. mark: that time i almost killed john in the kitchen. john: that time we jumped the shark. mark: that time we stomped the senator. what is the best place if you are trying to win votes if you want to eat lebanese votes? guest: i knew you were going to ask me that, and i can't remember. john: that time that justice
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ginsburg went ghetto. justice ginsburg: we both grew up in brooklyn. mark: that time that we still mustered on his hand. john: we will get you next time david. mark: we will get you next time david. ♪
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>> this in great stuff on the bloomberg politics website, including a new piece by the fund-raising wars. >> there is also a lot of news of jeb bush having a press conference in florida. he talked about national security and said he was not going to talk about iraq and afghanistan in terms of the past, but rather in the future. >> that is what things are talked about by candidates. >> we are bringing you our friends down on ll2.
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>> we are live 24/7 on bloomberg politics.com. up next, taking stock. and on radio, radio bloomberg law. ♪
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>> hello, i am pimm fox and this is "taking stock." economic growth in europe accelerates and oil prices increase and u.s. stocks move higher. the s&p 500 rose gray record today -- closing half a percent to nearly 2100. president obama wants corporate america to better cooperate with the federal government in order to investigate and combat cyber threats. the president addressed an audience at stanford university which included leading executives from microsoft, google and facebook. >> there was only one way to defend america from the cyber threats and that is through government and industry working together,

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